How do we know we’re not false converts?

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Can you imagine going to church for years and never hearing the full gospel? Sadly in our post-modern world, that’s exactly what many people have experienced in a growing number of seeker-purpose-business driven models where words like “sin” and “repent” are deemed too harsh for attendees and visitors to handle.

As a result, many people who join some of these churches do all the right things in spite of not receiving the Gospel message. We can serve with our gifts, we can teach Sunday school and even host small groups in our homes, never realizing that we have become the false converts Jesus spoke of.


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falsified book coverIt’s happened to both of your hosts, and it happened to our guest. Today, Vince Williams is with us. Vince and his wife Lori had spent many years in their Oklahoma megachurch, serving and leading with their gifts. One day their eyes were opened to the startling fact that they were false converts.
One day they heard something that opened their eyes to the frightening fact: They were both false converts! How could that be? Could it happen to any of us?
Vincent and Lori chronicled their amazing journey in the book, Falsified: The Danger of False Conversion. Their website, Falsified Ministries, is full of resources and articles to help you learn more.

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4 Responses to How do we know we’re not false converts?

  1. Jeff says:

    Over the 4th of July we were camping. There's a AG church 15 miles from where we camp. That Sunday we were there the Pastor Preached a message on Hell. On Sunday night we went back to the same church for a singspiration. I told the pastor I don't remember when's the last time I've heard a message on hell. I told him my two daughters who are 17 and 16 years old have never heard a message on hell. The pastor told me the week before preached a message on heaven. The pastor told me he had to preach a message on hell also.

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  2. Mr Davis says:

    How do you know if you are borne again may be a better question?

    Convert in the biblical sense means repent or to agree with God to the point where not only we agree with our words but our desire is back those words up with actions consistent with that agreement. Isaiah 6:10, James 5:19-20 (Here we are more than capable of fooling ourselves into believing we are walking in agreement with God.)

    In fact there is a parable on this very thing

    But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said , Son, go work to day in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. Matthew 21:28-31

    One honored him with his mouth only but his heart was far from his father for he did not do as he was bidden. The other was open or truthful about his opposition but after thinking on it a while he changed his mind and went and did as he was bidden.

    This is the point in Isaiah 29:13-14 our natural conduct is to walk in opposition to God and to deny it. There is more hope for the one who knows they are walking in opposition but then we must also understand who it is we are opposing. If our fear of the Lord is taught to us as a precept of man it is not true fear for only men have declared it. True fear is a gift of God and it's source is the Holy Spirit Isaiah 11:2-3 and it makes us to shudder at the prospect of finding ourselves in rebellion with God. Galatians 5:17 makes it clear that our rebellion remains even after we are borne again because of our own desires, our self will. This is our condition until we die and lay aside mortality that it may be clothed upon with immortality. So we also see the Holy Spirit making this same declaration in Philippians 3:13-21 and also in 2 Corinthians 13:5-7
    5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

    Modern translations have diminished this idea that we must see our own depravity, our own constant rebellion against a Holy, Righteous, Just God who must punish sin if He loves us at all and therefore we have no confidence in the flesh but in God alone who can raise the dead. We acknowledge it is not of us we do anything right, truly right but of God alone who works in us by His immense grace both to know and do His good perfect and pleasing will.

    So here is a test: do you still have confidence in yourself or other men? Or do you truly see yourself at the mercy of the Living God who will one day judge the quick and the dead so much so that you tremble at His word and hope in His grace shed abroad to all mankind that through faith in Christ Jesus we may be made the righteousness of God in Him.

    The biblical operation of the Body of Christ is intended to expose false converts not to cast them away but for the purpose of conversion. This means we have to be willing to bring our lives into the light and expose them in the body for what they truly are to work repentance and edification in all. 1 Corinthians 11:18-19, James 3:13-18, Ephesians 4:1-16, Elder are given that charge to continue that operation and not to neglect it. Acts 20:28-30

    Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Ephesians 2:19-20

    Behold the ones God has given to us who proclaimed to us His gospel and walked in it.

    For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. 1Corinthians 4:9-13

    For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church. 1 Corinthians 4:15-17

    Are we still thinking Paul is just addressing the Corinthian Church or is the Holy Spirit giving us a timeless word that in all things we His body may be presented to Christ a pure spotless bridge walking in obedience to the One true faith that alone can save.

    OH Praise God he has given us His word and His Holy Spirit by Whom we come to a knowledge of the truth. Praise Our LORD and Savior Christ Jesus who sent Him to us for our sakes and for His great glory.

    Amen!

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  3. Larry says:

    Hmmm. I love the honest truth of God's word and have the witness of the Holy Spirit in my heart, and did I mention that I feel convicted of sin when I stray from the path? Anyways, if we were getting people right off the bat grounded in the word instead of jacked up on big name preachers you know.

    $0.02

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  4. Alan says:

    Where is Clara Pellar when you need her? Instead of her looking at a hamburger and asking "Where's the beef!?" maybe someone could photoshop her standing in front of a Mega-Church holding the lastest NY Times Christian bestsellar (since I am guessing most people don't read the Holy Bible anymore) asking instead, "Where's the gospel!?"

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