How to answer the fool!

“The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God.'” – Psalm 14:1

Sylvester the Jester

Have you ever gotten into a heated discussion about God with a fool? That word sounds so harsh. But Jesus, our kind and gentle Savior, called people fools. Why did He do that? Was He judging a man’s intellect, or was it something else? Knowledge isn’t a bad thing. We know that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. But we have this idea that our apologetics, or the way we share the Gospel must somehow prove God’s existence. And we’d better have some good, well-researched evidence to back it up, or they won’t believe.


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Today’s guest is an apologist who says we don’t need any proof at all. And he’ll prove it! His name is Sye Ten Bruggencate, and he’s a street-evangelist and the creator of a new film titled, How To Answer The Fool: A Presuppositional Defense of the Faith.

For as Romans 1:18-21 declares:

“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men whproofo suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities – his eternal power and divine nature – have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.”

Produced as a cinematic film, How to Answer the Fool was adapted for use in small group and Sunday School classes, making it a useful tool for individual or group study. With an eye-opening, cinematic message, How to Answer the Fool deliberately and strategically teaches you how to defend the Faith; answering the call of Scripture to ‘be ready in season and out of season‘ in order that we may ‘…always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in [us].’

Here is the trailer:

 

 

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18 Responses to How to answer the fool!

  1. SteveB says:

    Love this. Have found every atheist fail to defend themselves at the presuppositional level.
    But it's immensely sad that they can't see it. Atheists will blindly go along saying there's absolutely no absolutes, that they're certain that they can't be certain of anything, and that they know they don't know anything, and find no problem with these self defeating statements.
    Thank you God for pulling me out of this kind of self defeating despair and hypocrisy.

    Any atheist who talks big against presuppositional apologetics are simply ignoring the argument and claiming victory.

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  2. How do you greet Sye and his friends? "PreSup, Dude!"

    OK, but seriously, folks, I think this was a good presentation by Sye, and he makes some points that really need to be understood. Looking forward to seeing his video for myself.

    In my dealings with atheists and evolutionists, I have learned that they are exceptionally presuppositional themselves! They get upset when this is pointed out to them.

    Some people reject presuppositional apologetics out of hand because they do not understand it, bringing in their own presuppositions instead. I believe in using evidence, but in a presuppositional framework. Also, I would like to recommend Dr. Jason Lisle's "Nuclear Strength Apologetics", available in both video and book formats.

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  3. Jim Rael says:

    @SteveB: What is your foundation for knowing god is good?

    How can you KNOW your brain is ABSOLUTELY correct about god?

    Zeus created all words, you are communicating with words, therefore by your very use of words to argue against Zeus, you prove Zeus is real. It is your arrogance and wickedness that blinds you to the truth of Zeus, and you are deceived by Hades into believing in Yahweh instead of Zeus. You KNOW this to be true, you just choose to deny it out of fear of his power….

    Your argument proves NOTHING other than your desperation.

    I find it HILARIOUS that this is what theists think is a slam dunk argument, which even if it were sound, and IT ISN'T, it amounts to "See! You are just as stupid as we are!". Nice. Shouldn't the facts that you must sink to underhanded word games to defend your beliefs and create a whole new set of rules that you NEVER apply anywhere else but god (special pleading fallacy), maybe your beliefs need to be reevaluated? Just a thought…

    Lastly, as I see nothing but other theists high fiveing in the comments, I am just submitting this to the moderation cue for the oh so open minded theist admin to deny it. Because the truth must be shielded from scrutiny, and censoring is exactly what Jesus would do.

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  4. Jim Rael says:

    I stand corrected, good on ya mate, I respectfully retract the last paragraph, I was wrong, my bad.

    All else still applies…lol.

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    • SteveB says:

      Well your Zeus argument is faulty because my God didn't create Zeus, so there's no way he could do what you say. Now you're within your rights to give up atheism and argue for the existence of Zeus, but I find it interesting that the first place you went to as an argument was to go to something that you know isn't true … just sayin.

      You can say all sorts of stuff like its word games, it's a logical fallacy, or whatever, but it seems like you're speaking without understanding the argument even though you've clearly heard it.

      While you're here, could you be wrong about everything you claim to know to be true?

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    • Petrucius says:

      In fact your little riff on Zeus illustrates well why Sye is right on this. Your misunderstanding of the argument presented, and the way that you argue your point show this, is due to you getting wrong or forgetting the meaning of presupposition. The presupposition precedes or frames or provides the background for an argument. It is not part of the argument. Of course your insisting that your comment is included is very kind of you but it really just serves as an illustration of a foolish comment. Thanks.

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  5. Jim Rael says:

    I didn't misunderstand anything, this is just your presupp dance to avoid answering scrutiny.

    Your argument, if valid, and it isn't, only gets you to *some* god, not your particular one. I understand your argument in and out. It is essentially stealth solipsism with childish word games tacked on, and it can work for ANYTHING you insert into the premises, regardless of it's truth, watch:

    P1. The Flying Spaghetti Monster created thoughts.
    P2. Without thoughts, you cannot communicate.
    P3: Communication is required to deny the FSM

    C: Without The FSM, you cannot communicate, therefore the FSM is a neccessary presupposition to any discussion about anything.

    You are essentially building an elaborate Special Pleading Fallacy.

    "Everything has to follow these rules, save for this one thing I made up, which is the one exception to these rules."

    This is why you are forced to say asinine things like:
    "You can say all sorts of stuff like its word games, it’s a logical fallacy, or whatever…"

    You didn't offer a letter of refutation of these facts, you just dismiss them with a hand wave, which we both know, is the only rebuttal you have to such statements.

    If you make your argument and it's premises follow the same rules of logic and epistemology that is required of EVERY OTHER claim outside of your god, it can't stand on it's own legs for long, in fact, it comes out the gate in a wheelchair…with no legs…and dead.

    So you make up an elaborate, pedantic argument which cannot stand on it's own merits, and claim it doesn't have to, because it is special.

    I may try that. I'll start saying there is no god because Dawkins said so. And when they come back with "argument from authority fallacy" I'll just come back with:

    "You can say it's a fallacy or whatever…"

    And LAUGH MY BUTT OFF when you, and they call foul.

    "While you’re here, could you be wrong about everything you claim to know to be true?"

    No. Not about EVERYTHING, anyone not plain stupid and who is being intellectually honest will know this. Now my turn:

    How can you know everything you know about your god is true?
    (And don't waste my time with more special pleading about a "virtuous" circle to your circular reply of "because god said so", you KNOW that is beyond dishonest, and if Jesus were real, he would hang his head in shame to see his religion promoted in such a way.

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  6. Yaakov says:

    @Jim Rael:

    You say you cannot be wrong about everything you claim to know to be true.

    What are those things about which you could not be wrong?

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  7. Jason Lisle (was at Answers in Genesis) did a training video on this approach and made a very insightful comment. When the unbeliever is pressed with this, he will not, he cannot, come back with a cogent response. Oh, words may come out of mouth, but it will be SOUND AND FURY SIGNIFYING NOTHING. That is what make all this so amusing.

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    • Kuni says:

      So you admit your apologetic is nothing more then ad hominom insults? Also don't be ridiculous this apologetic is probably the most laughable there is and sye is a joke who wants you money. It's just that you are too arrogant and proud and blinded by your own fanaticism to realize you are wrong

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      • SteveB says:

        "It’s just that you are too arrogant and proud and blinded by your own fanaticism to realize you are wrong."
        If you have a problem with ad hominom insults then you should also have a problem with your own :/

        Your response fulfilled the very critique you were raging against, " When the unbeliever is pressed with this, he will not, he cannot, come back with a cogent response. Oh, words may come out of mouth, but it will be SOUND AND FURY SIGNIFYING NOTHING. That is what make all this so amusing."

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      • kuni says:

        no i have not ,and its just that you dont realise what i am talking about there have been hundreds of rebuttals against this joke you call "presupptionalism", but its just that you refuse to accept them!

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      • SteveB says:

        So to you, calling a person arrogant and proud is not an ad hominim attack and not itself rude and arrogant… …

        I really feel sorry for you 😦
        You need prayer more than reasoned responses.

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      • kuni says:

        but you ARE being arrogant and proud when you speak like that, it is no different to call a person who truly believe 1+1=75 "dumb"

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      • kuni says:

        again this shows the rudness and arrogance of your "apologetic" just like sye you just want to talk down to people

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  8. SLIMJIM says:

    Thank you for your review

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  9. keith says:

    This apologetic is not even a defense, it's a silly word-game that will convince no one but a current believer who's already primed.

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  10. Jeff says:

    Wow… Unbelievers are some angry people. Hostile and belligerent in mind; just like the Word of God says…

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