When Church means Business

Business Meeting

What happens when the Body of Christ is operated like a successful corporation? There is an entire culture, complete with its own language, shaped around what has become the “business” of doing Church. Rather than focusing on feeding the sheep or equipping the saints to bring the Good News of the Gospel to those who don’t know Him, it would seem that those in the business-driven model are about the business of growing the flock, broadening God’s market share, spawning new Christians and leading them to “doing life” that is void of real discipleship.

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What many Christians don’t realize is that the “Seekermergent Church” is a product created by and promoted by the “Druckerites,” or those who have been personally mentored and inspired by the late business guru Peter Drucker (who was not a Christian).  Rick Warren, Bob Buford and Bill Hybels are the Druckerite “trinity,” and these three men more than any others are responsible for innovating the church by purposely changing congregations from a pastoral ministry model to a CEO / Innovative Change Agent leadership model.

We’ve shared the must-see Church of Tares video before, and if you haven’t seen it you will want to watch:


This image is from a Business Model Case Study for a Calvary Church. The people who attend church are “customers,” a segment that expects front desk service to have somebody answer questions. Big congregational offerings and endowments generate revenue. The church staff delivers on the value proposition through two to four large campuses that produce large events weekly. The cost structure of staff and facilities maintenance support these activities.


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3 Responses to When Church means Business

  1. Dan says:

    I have to agree with the gentleman who said if you are born again You have the Holy Spirit in you, because of that you will have a hunger for God's word, the actual word, the only thing that is true, a book written by man will not satisfy you, Only the voice of the Lamb of God will do.

    If we are yet coming to Christ we will not understand the Bible because to us it is a closed book. "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Isaiah 29:10-12, Romans 11: 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    But unlike the learned men in Isaiah 29 who recognized the book was closed to them, today we have men taught by men who presume to know the truth yet they do not what it says. The problem is how do you discern the truth without the Spirit of God. Isaiah 11:2-4. Everywhere the will of the flesh confronts the will of God, we at every point will resist the will of God and in order to prefer our own. More importantly we will lie to ourselves about this and justify our beliefs even using scriptures which are closed to us to justify our position. Truly our situation is hopeless for there is no way possible for us to ever approach God of our own accord. Even with the Holy Spirit the struggle with our self will remains. Galatians 5:17, James 4:5. We would rather submit to man than to God, even if the man is clearly evil. This is where Jude discusses our natural preference to esteem men in order to gain an advantage or to compare men against men as is listed in 2 Corinthians 10:12. Yet, this is the very governing principle behind all higher learning and politics. Why do you think higher education is pushed so hard.

    Its entire purpose is to promote a natural tendency in ourselves to look to man's wisdom to open any truth to us. We look for the PhD, the credentials of the learned and the books they write, for that is what we have been conditioned to do. What tickles your ears and is pleasing to you that will ultimately become your truth. This is our sinful nature. Isaiah 29:13-15, Jeremiah 5:30-31, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, 2 Timothy 3:1-8.

    This is why salvation truly is a miracle and why the message is so offensive. It is impossible for man to obtain it on His own. It is a gift from God and He gives it to whom He wills and none will prevent Him. If we are His our hearts should be braking over those who are perishing, those who preach a false gospel, those who according to scripture are accursed, for we likewise were one enemies of Christ ourselves, dead in our trespasses and sins, without hope.

    So warn them, urge them to repent of their willful rebellion and be reconciled to God through Christ and continue in the way he has laid down for us in the Law of Love. Reject every thought and idea that exalts itself against the knowledge of God that His righteousness may be their banner and their hope.

    Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word of thy righteousness. Deal with thy servant according unto thy mercy, and teach me thy statutes. I am thy servant; give me understanding, that I may know thy testimonies. It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law. Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold. Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way. Psalm 119:123-128

    Thy testimonies are wonderful: therefore doth my soul keep them. The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for thy commandments. Psalm 119:129-131


  2. Dan says:

    I know that the vast majority of churches don't follow a biblical model of conduct when they gather; but we have God's own word in our own tongue and if we have been born again we have the Spirit of Christ in us, how then can we excuse our not doing what God says to do in whatever capacity we find ourselves in. Father, Mother, Husband, Wife, Child, Son, Daughter, Brother, Sister, Widow, Estranged, Slave, Free, Debtor, Holder of the Debt, Master, Servant, Government Official, Elder, Deacon, Whatever.

    At the judgement, we will not be able to point at another and say he taught me different. We have the Hope of Glory Christ in us. Col 1:27 We for our part must strive to walk as Christ walked in complete obedience to the Father's will, and since we do not have the strength to do this we call on the Father of Lights to work in us to know and do what God's will is. His good perfect and pleasing will that is without contradiction and that by the Power of His Spirit working in us we are able to overcome our own will. A will that at its very heart is contrary to God will, though not all will accept this. We don’t ask this for our sake, but, in order that we may by our conduct or speech not cause God's Holy name to be blasphemed, or profaned but rather that God would be glorified in and through us. To God be the Glory, Power, and Honor forever and ever amen.

    If you are not born again and have not yet had the Holy Spirit testify with your spirit that you are indeed God's child Romans 8:16, it would not be wise to presume you have escaped God's wrath, as some would have you believe. We are all without a hope of escape by any means apart from God working in you supernaturally. If you must yet come to this conclusion, this condition has been inherited from your father and it cannot be changed by any human means. Romans 5:12, Romans 3:10-23 since Adam all have been estranged from God and all walk after our own self will spoken of also as the will of the flesh. Revelation 5:1-4

    If you are convinced this is not true see John 1:13. Men are saved by an act of God's will. It is Christ who knows those who will inherit salvation, it is by His knowledge men are justified. Isaiah 53:11, 1 Peter 1:2, Ephesians 1:4, 2:1, Galatians 1:4, John 8:36. Our willing does nothing, Our hoping or claiming things even declaring things for others does nothing. Our knowledge isn’t what saves us, even what we profess doesn’t save us. It is Christ Jesus alone who saves. The One who has been offended He himself must acquit us and declare us not guilty.

    Still not convinced?

    Think for a moment if you were standing guilty of murder before the judge would you tell him I know I committed murder so think we are good now. There is no need for me to endure the punishment required. I know the family of the one I killed and I know they are crying out for justice but I think you should ignore them. You see I'm crying here too and my tears mean more than theirs so don't listen to them. What would the judge do?

    Think for a moment you are standing before the judge for murder. You claim your innocent but for a truth you are guilty and everyone knows it. You stick to your guns attesting to your innocence because in your heart you have done no wrong. If anything you see yourself as the victim here and have wronged no one. What would the judge do?

    In both cases the murder suffers the due punishment based on the guilty finding, anything short of it, the judge is lynched for being unjust. The only way the offender gets off is if the offended party drops the charges. Why would we expect anything different from God? The offended party does the work here. They acquit. If the offender is smart he/she will begin a desperate plea with the offended party in order that they may not come before the judgment seat and be found guilty. Now scripture is clear we have all offended God and come short of His mark or rule of perfection. We have all sinned and the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23 but as is suggested there is a free gift, an acquittal of all unrighteousness bearing out in eternal life being made available to us through Christ Jesus the offended party. Alleluia what a savior!!!

    What we fail to consider with God who is eternal, infinite and Holy our condition is even more dire. It is not some man we have committed an offense against but God almighty, who is eternal, infinite and Holy; The One who is by definition Love. Our offense, any offense is seen as treachery against Him who alone is infinite. Call it treason against God or mutiny against the most High to really get your head around our dire situation. This is why the wages of sin is death. Adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and because of this treacherous act against the most High all of creation is cursed and destined for fire where even the very elements will be dissolved. 2 Peter 3:10-11. All things will be laid bear and tested for their quality against God’s Holy Standard 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, Revelation 20:11-15. A question should enter our minds how can anything I do meet His Holy Standard it is impossible, I am not God. Even the scriptures testify to our dire condition Job 15:16, Psalm 14:3, Psalm 53:3, Isaiah 64:6. Just thinking you can somehow do something good is for this reason a Holy affront against God who made the universe and holds your breath in His hand. Christ Himself testified, only God is good, when a man dared call him good without first recognizing Him as God. Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19

    Our case truly is hopeless you see. There is no way we run to God to be acquitted, no way we hope in His salvation made possible through the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, unless God the Father grants us repentance 2 Timothy 2:25 and faith in His Son Jesus Christ. None come unto the Son unless the Father draws him John 6:44. You see we are dead spiritually because of our sin and therefore cannot come to Him on our own by our own will. God doesn’t stand outside of time and look for who will come and heed his call and then put their names in the Lambs Book of Life. If we could then it could be argued it was our will that saved us, we willed to come to God. Ephesians 2:1-22 lays out the whole of the problem and the solution made possible in Christ. Ezekiel 35:25-27 explains what God does to us to make it possible for us to even respond to rightly towards Him. Ezekiel 36:31-32 We are completely and entirely at His mercy. You see the offended party: God, is our judge and our only means of salvation.

    Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. This faith is a gift a gift, He dispenses as He wills and it is a faith that leads to obedience. Hebrews 10:38-39 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back , my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

    There is a beautiful picture of this in Zechariah 3 of what the Lord will do for those whom He will acquit. Zechariah 3:3-4. He grants to them to be clothed in His righteousness, cleansed by His blood, hid as it were in Him. To them the Lord grants repentance and faith producing the fruit of righteousness. All of this done under the Power and person of the Holy Spirit so it is true fruit, fruit that will last.

    Should you feel hatred towards your own sin that your desire is not to do it any longer, should your love of God’s word grow, should your love for Christ spark into a flame of growing gratitude and your heart be broken with compassion for those who still abide under God’s wrath, and should your love for fellow believers grow, should your life more and more conform to the Love of Christ 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, and the fruits of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22-23 Praise God for all He has Done and don’t you dare take credit for your hearts change, Praise God for He alone works in you both to know and do His will that we do not do this on our own.

    If not consider for just a moment the one who you are obeying in your rebellion towards God and what awaits for him and all those who follow in his ways. Revelation 20:10-15,
    Remember the words of Christ Jesus, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world: 22: 13-15 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. It is a good sign if we are afraid we should be.


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