God on our terms, and terms that matter

God's Opinion That The World Should Go On

Does God dream, or does He know? If He is love, does He hate? Why are words like missional, contemplative and spiritual being twisted by the enemy and lead to confusion in the Church?

There is a lost and hurting world, and a whole new generation of Christians who are getting their ideas about Christian doctrine from the words we use and the way we communicate. Today we are dialoging about those ideas we have about God, and why the words we use to describe Him matter.


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Joining us today is Dave Wager, the author of several books and the  president of Silver Birch Ranch and Nicolet Bible Institute in northern Wisconsin. Dave is also the president of a ministry called The Omega Force, a catalyst that helps Christians learn the Word of God through college-level courses that anyone can take online.


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2 Responses to God on our terms, and terms that matter

  1. Mr Davis says:

    We would love to have perfect understanding of God and what He has written us in His word but our flesh doesn't. The Lord's word is authoritative and we rather desire to be our own authority. And where the word of God runs against our desires and the paradigms we have accepted we turn away. This issue is in the body in every person.

    When the Lord says if you desire to lead you must be the servant of all and show them in your example how they are to walk. We instead exhalt ourselves expound our own knowledge and give no room to the exercizing of the body and thereby nullify the word of God.

    Yet we will say in what way have we nullified the word of God? The Lord would answer is it not in your sacred assemblies where I have commanded you to exhalt the lowly and despised and undersirable, humble the poud, the beautiful the elloquent and build up the weak, you who are strong and spiritual, that you would have the same care one for another amongst yourselves that there be no schism in the body.

    But we do not care. We offend and give no mind to it, no repentance, because we love to be a respector of persons and to have mens persons in high reguard because doing so puts us at an advantage even if it just our boasting in them. Our pride keeps us from acknowledging this abomination is in us. We lie against the truth.

    A proud heart is an abomination to the Lord and still we exhalt pride. Still we exhalt rebellion against him. We are a treacherous lot filled with treachery against the Most High and we do not see it.

    God is no respector of person to whom we must give an account. What will we say I wonder. Will we lie and say I didn't know, when we see pride and the boasting of others and hate it.

    Oh that we would weep over our own wicked condition and our hearts break for the people in our own assmblies we gather in, and break for this wicked nation we live in.

    Oh that our hearts cry would be in this time: Be ye reconcilled to Christ and repent of your abominations and wickedness for God is Holy and He is coming back and none there is in heaven and earth who can stand against Him for even Satan is subject to Christ and does His bidding. Even Satan and the Demons acknowledge Christ is Lord and they shudder.

    Would we accept the Lord's counsel? Will we do what He would have us to do? Or will we follow wicked men who do not acknowledge God in their ways and pay no head themselves to the scriptures which they themselves expound. May God grant we repent.


  2. Dan says:

    You had a guest on your show 8 Jan who said that God doesn’t hate anyone and who interpreted the following passages to say that God hates things but not people.

    Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."

    Assuming that the interpretation is correct, what do you do with the following?

    Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"

    Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."

    Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."

    They clearly speak of God hating certain people, NOT things. I would just like to hear the explanation.

    Thank you.


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