Is the Church submerging?

The Bible warns us about a great delusion that will take place prior to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Jesus Himself wants to warn us so that we will be prepared, and said that many of us will fall away.  Is that delusion already underway in our Body of Christ today? We’ve talked about the many facets of the Emerging Church movement, and despite what some would hope or what you may have heard about this movement, it has NOT gone away. And the concern is that whether knowingly or unknowingly, millions of people will be lead down a slippery slope of deception. How could this happen? Very subtly.

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Today we’ll introduce you to Joe Schimmel, founder of The Good Fight Ministries, and producer of such DVD teachings as They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll.  Joe has a brand new 2-part DVD series just launched titled, THE SUBMERGING CHURCH: How the Emerging Church is Drawing Multitudes Away from Biblical Christianity. The two and a half hour 2-DVD set exposes the spiritual outlooks of key figures in the emerging church/contemplative movement such as Rob Bell, Brian McLaren, Mark Driscoll, Rick Warren, Dan Kimball, Tony Campolo, and others.

Joe Schimmel is also the senior pastor at Blessed Hope Chapel, an evangelical non-denominational fellowship in Simi Valley, California. He helped found the church in 1990 and has been there ever since.

Here is a clip from The Submerging Church:

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2 Responses to Is the Church submerging?

  1. Mr Davis says:

    Yes the bible certainly does warn, and warn and warn and warn starting in Genesis.

    Genesis 6
    5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    That brought on the flood in which only 8 souls were saved,

    and what of after the flood did things get better?

    Not at all.
    Genesis 8
    21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done . 22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease .

    We are all of us wicked and evil and it is only the Spirit of Grace acting in the world preventing it, preventing any of us, from being as bad and self destructive as it and we could be. This is true for all of creation saved and unsaved, God's mercyies are truely new every morning for all. So It is God who prevents anyone from walking into utter ruin brought on by sin's destructive behavior. Behavior that is bent on self promotion and self interest in every way shape and form exihibited in the self will.

    This is counter intuitive. If I am looking out for my own interest how is that destructive to me? One thing is I do not know what is in my best interest. I can think drug abuse, sexual sins, coveting what others posses, are all good for me because I perceive that they bring pleasure and do not consider the ill effects. And then there is the allure in us for what is forbiden to do what is forbiden to our own ruin. Then there is the over all picture where everyone working in their own interest will ultimately devour one another.

    So this is our Command from God and one that is not much observed by any so called church of the west.

    Galations 5
    13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

    16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would .

    18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

    19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before , as I have also told you in time past , that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

    26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.


  2. Tina says:

    I have listened to dozens of Mark Driscoll's sermons and he is an exceptional teacher, and pastor. He doesn't belong in this list with Rick Warren, Joel Olsten, and the others mentioned. Driscoll does not compromise the Word of God, and has clearly said that the church can't try to gain numbers by being seeker friendly. I encourage Good Fight Ministries to listen to more of Driscoll.


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